nvidia drivers

I have a quattro FX 3000 and Quattro FX 4000. Does anyone know if there are special vista drivers for these cards? I get the Areo glass theme working but it seems slow.
How do I know if my drivers installed right or if it's using the CPU only?
Thanks, Ben L

www.zacknet.co.uk/vistabase/ - Graphics - "Device drivers - Nvidia"
You're in luck - I believe they are supported yes :o)
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Make sure those drivers are supported under 5270, nVidia had some on their websites that were only supported 5112. -- Andre Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta FAQ for MS AntiSpy http://www.geocities.com/marfer_mvp/FAQ_MSantispy.htm
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www.zacknet.co.uk/vistabase/ - Graphics - "Device drivers - Nvidia"
You're in luck - I believe they are supported yes :o)
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Ben here is the link to the Nvidia site that you want. and yes the cards are supported.
http://www.nvidia.com/page/technology_vista_home.html
Josh http://windowsconnected.com

"Ben L" wrote in message

I have a quattro FX 3000 and Quattro FX 4000. Does anyone know if there are special vista drivers for these cards? I get the Areo glass theme working but it seems slow.
How do I know if my drivers installed right or if it's using the CPU only?
Thanks, Ben L

Zach,
I am all for the shameless self plug everyonce in a while, but when possible with information that is fluid, like this, I think it would be a better practice for us to direct them to the Vendor web site as we don't want to deliver bad information when details change.
Nvida's Vista Web site http://www.nvidia.com/page/technology_vista_home.html
josh http://windowsconnected.com

"Zack Whittaker (R2 Mentor)" wrote in message

www.zacknet.co.uk/vistabase/ - Graphics - "Device drivers - Nvidia"
You're in luck - I believe they are supported yes :o)
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More accurately "the cards will be supported in the shipping version". They are not necessarily supported right now.
RK
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Ben here is the link to the Nvidia site that you want. and yes the cards are supported.
http://www.nvidia.com/page/technology_vista_home.html
Josh http://windowsconnected.com

"Ben L" wrote in message I have a quattro FX 3000 and Quattro FX 4000. Does anyone know if there are special vista drivers for these cards? I get the Areo glass theme working but it seems slow.
How do I know if my drivers installed right or if it's using the CPU only?
Thanks, Ben L

The 4000 is my card in the next room ;o)
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But I know the 4000 definately is... as I said, it's the card I'm using in the next room!
And hey, that's what the website's there for.
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You'd be a lot better off using the XP drivers;
Just extract all contents of the latest NVIDIA ForceWare .exe you downloaded into a folder using WinRAR or some such, and run the extracted Setup.exe in XP Compatibility Mode.
Reboot, and performance will be practically just as good as on XP, and you could still use the Aero Glass mode with the help of some Registry tweaks* but if you do that you'll need to keep switching Vista's rendering engine off with CTRL+SHIFT+F9 before you can run other DirectX/OpenGL apps in hardware-accelerated mode, otherwise just disable the User Experience service.

* CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\DWM\ ... * [DWORD] UseMachineCheck = 0 * [DWORD] Glass = 1 * [DWORD] Composition = 1 * [DWORD] Blur = 0 (speeds it up a lot) * [DWORD] Animations = 0 (to speed it up a little, but you may want to leave them on)

"Ben L" wrote in message

I have a quattro FX 3000 and Quattro FX 4000. Does anyone know if there are special vista drivers for these cards? I get the Areo glass theme working but it seems slow.
How do I know if my drivers installed right or if it's using the CPU only?
Thanks, Ben L

Yeh, I've got a set of articles on VistaBase which basically describes the last post Adahn made.
www.zacknet.co.uk/vistabase and select "Graphics" from the left menu :o)
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I didn't install any drivers. I just ran the Vista setup. Glass works, but its slow (in my opinion).
found my final answer on the nvidia site:
"Updated NVIDIA graphics drivers are included in the Vista December CTP build, available directly from the Microsoft Developer's Network. These drivers are only compatible with Vista December CTP, version 5270.Winmain.051214-1910 and should not be used with other versions of Vista."

My Glass is a little slow as well - click and drag a window around the screen and it just goes slowly for a second or so, then speeds up :op
Could well be a Vista thing - some other of my testing colleagues have said the same things, and they have *uber* amazing computers. Dual Core 64 bit, 3.8 something Ghz, AMD 64 Processors... 2GB RAM... the latest graphics cards... and still... :op
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Its slow also on my machine, the code is simply not optimized yet, Jim Allchin said, they have not turned that on yet. We might see some improvements in the Feb CTP, but the BETA 2 release is what we should really be looking forward to. -- Andre Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta FAQ for MS AntiSpy http://www.geocities.com/marfer_mvp/FAQ_MSantispy.htm
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My Glass is a little slow as well - click and drag a window around the screen and it just goes slowly for a second or so, then speeds up :op
Could well be a Vista thing - some other of my testing colleagues have said the same things, and they have *uber* amazing computers. Dual Core 64 bit, 3.8 something Ghz, AMD 64 Processors... 2GB RAM... the latest graphics cards... and still... :op
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It's pretty fast and smooth on the XP drivers, once you've forced it from the Registry. and in either case, turning Blur off helps a lot.
"Ben L" wrote in message

I didn't install any drivers. I just ran the Vista setup. Glass works, but its slow (in my opinion).

"It's pretty fast and smooth on the XP drivers"
lol, of course, they're Hollywood DCC video rendering monsters.
But that's interesting... they'll find Aero Glass a challenge? Beats me...
"Adahn" wrote in message

It's pretty fast and smooth on the XP drivers, once you've forced it from the Registry. and in either case, turning Blur off helps a lot.
"Ben L" wrote in message I didn't install any drivers. I just ran the Vista setup. Glass works, but its slow (in my opinion).

Has anbyody managed to install the nVidia Vista driver?
I'm getting the error message that I don't have Windows Vista installed (which of course I do). Consequently I can't run OpenGL, etc.

I had the same problem, so I tried something different and read the release notes for 88.61. The release notes page 7 titled "Not NVIDIA issues" will walk you through the procedure to install the drivers.
"Ian M. Walker" wrote:

Has anbyody managed to install the nVidia Vista driver?
I'm getting the error message that I don't have Windows Vista installed (which of course I do). Consequently I can't run OpenGL, etc.

I appreciate the post and did indeed read the release notes but it's an exe file that we download and those instructions say we should unzip it. Umm, how?

"fwright" wrote:

I had the same problem, so I tried something different and read the release notes for 88.61. The release notes page 7 titled "Not NVIDIA issues" will walk you through the procedure to install the drivers.
"Ian M. Walker" wrote:
Has anbyody managed to install the nVidia Vista driver?
I'm getting the error message that I don't have Windows Vista installed (which of course I do). Consequently I can't run OpenGL, etc.

In any case, I noticed that the default drivers Vista installed were the 53 series from 2004 !!! Luckily I kept most of my old drivers and managed to install the 78.01 series from September of last year so at least I have OpenGl support, etc. now.
Why on earth the "latest" OS is installing drivers from two years ago that don't even give us all of the graphics capabilities we need is beyond me.

"fwright" wrote:

I had the same problem, so I tried something different and read the release notes for 88.61. The release notes page 7 titled "Not NVIDIA issues" will walk you through the procedure to install the drivers.
"Ian M. Walker" wrote:
Has anbyody managed to install the nVidia Vista driver?
I'm getting the error message that I don't have Windows Vista installed (which of course I do). Consequently I can't run OpenGL, etc.

I went to nvidia and "run" directly the drivers that i needed(Forceware Release 85 ver 88.61) Beta drivers for Windows Vista. I've only played San Andreas so far, laggy but playable.
"Ian M. Walker" wrote:

In any case, I noticed that the default drivers Vista installed were the 53 series from 2004 !!! Luckily I kept most of my old drivers and managed to install the 78.01 series from September of last year so at least I have OpenGl support, etc. now.
Why on earth the "latest" OS is installing drivers from two years ago that don't even give us all of the graphics capabilities we need is beyond me.

"fwright" wrote:
I had the same problem, so I tried something different and read the release notes for 88.61. The release notes page 7 titled "Not NVIDIA issues" will walk you through the procedure to install the drivers.
"Ian M. Walker" wrote:
Has anbyody managed to install the nVidia Vista driver?
I'm getting the error message that I don't have Windows Vista installed (which of course I do). Consequently I can't run OpenGL, etc.

Nah - the nVidia driver to be perfectly honest, is absolute shite. Just stick with the Vista driver which comes with the OS - OK it might not run at the best of performance, but it seems there's no way to get rid of the nVidia driver after you install it 8o|
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--: Original message follows :-- "Ian M. Walker" wrote in message

Has anbyody managed to install the nVidia Vista driver?
I'm getting the error message that I don't have Windows Vista installed (which of course I do). Consequently I can't run OpenGL, etc.

And then I don't have OpenGL and 3D support and can't play my games? Umm, think I'll choose NO on that suggestion, thanks.

"Zack Whittaker" wrote:

Nah - the nVidia driver to be perfectly honest, is absolute shite. Just stick with the Vista driver which comes with the OS - OK it might not run at the best of performance, but it seems there's no way to get rid of the nVidia driver after you install it 8o|
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--: Original message follows :-- "Ian M. Walker" wrote in message Has anbyody managed to install the nVidia Vista driver?
I'm getting the error message that I don't have Windows Vista installed (which of course I do). Consequently I can't run OpenGL, etc.

To Zack
I don't want to start anything here, but are you a ATI video card user by any chance??? As you may have guessed i'm an NVidia user. Never had any problem what so ever installing or uninstalling drivers. I'm a gamer but i don't go nuts on fps's.
"Ian M. Walker" wrote:

And then I don't have OpenGL and 3D support and can't play my games? Umm, think I'll choose NO on that suggestion, thanks.

"Zack Whittaker" wrote:
Nah - the nVidia driver to be perfectly honest, is absolute shite. Just stick with the Vista driver which comes with the OS - OK it might not run at the best of performance, but it seems there's no way to get rid of the nVidia driver after you install it 8o|
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--: Original message follows :-- "Ian M. Walker" wrote in message Has anbyody managed to install the nVidia Vista driver?
I'm getting the error message that I don't have Windows Vista installed (which of course I do). Consequently I can't run OpenGL, etc.

Actually, just using the System Restore worked perfectly for me. I tried installing the Nvidia Beta Vista drivers three times, and everytime I ended up with a black screen on rebooting a couple of times. System Restore fixed it, though no official Nvidia drivers still...
"Zack Whittaker" wrote:

Nah - the nVidia driver to be perfectly honest, is absolute shite. Just stick with the Vista driver which comes with the OS - OK it might not run at the best of performance, but it seems there's no way to get rid of the nVidia driver after you install it 8o|
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--: Original message follows :-- "Ian M. Walker" wrote in message Has anbyody managed to install the nVidia Vista driver?
I'm getting the error message that I don't have Windows Vista installed (which of course I do). Consequently I can't run OpenGL, etc.

Thank God, I'm a nVidia user - but I've had... *experiences* with ATI in the past...
*cough* arses *cough* ahem...
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--: Original message follows :-- "Marlon" wrote in message

To Zack
I don't want to start anything here, but are you a ATI video card user by any chance??? As you may have guessed i'm an NVidia user. Never had any problem what so ever installing or uninstalling drivers. I'm a gamer but i don't go nuts on fps's.
"Ian M. Walker" wrote:
And then I don't have OpenGL and 3D support and can't play my games? Umm, think I'll choose NO on that suggestion, thanks.

"Zack Whittaker" wrote:
Nah - the nVidia driver to be perfectly honest, is absolute shite. Just stick with the Vista driver which comes with the OS - OK it might not run at the best of performance, but it seems there's no way to get rid of the nVidia driver after you install it 8o|
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--: Original message follows :-- "Ian M. Walker" wrote in message Has anbyody managed to install the nVidia Vista driver?
I'm getting the error message that I don't have Windows Vista installed (which of course I do). Consequently I can't run OpenGL, etc.

Yes I was bale too without problems. Sound is my only issue presently. Its my old card that needs to be replaced. I am waiting for beta 2 drivers from creative. -- system: AMD 64 3000, MSI k8t Neo,1.5 gig RAM, WD Raptor SATA 74G HD, eVGA 6800 GT, SB live value, Vista beta 2 64 bit/XP Pro 64 bit... Thanks, BJBB

"Ian M. Walker" wrote:

Has anbyody managed to install the nVidia Vista driver?
I'm getting the error message that I don't have Windows Vista installed (which of course I do). Consequently I can't run OpenGL, etc.

They are out already. Check the Creative site. Good luck.
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http://www.IanMWalker.com
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Yes I was bale too without problems. Sound is my only issue presently. Its my old card that needs to be replaced. I am waiting for beta 2 drivers from creative. -- system: AMD 64 3000, MSI k8t Neo,1.5 gig RAM, WD Raptor SATA 74G HD, eVGA 6800 GT, SB live value, Vista beta 2 64 bit/XP Pro 64 bit... Thanks, BJBB

"Ian M. Walker" wrote:
Has anbyody managed to install the nVidia Vista driver?
I'm getting the error message that I don't have Windows Vista installed (which of course I do). Consequently I can't run OpenGL, etc.